tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post9019556237853995147..comments2024-02-26T03:37:51.236-05:00Comments on Love, Lust and Rambling: Drama in the OmegaverseGoldeniangelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09929993797333679857noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-43385989433470766322019-06-28T08:01:58.361-04:002019-06-28T08:01:58.361-04:00Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your blog a...Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wanted to say that I have really enjoyed reading your blog posts. 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What there is, is a number of similarities between the two books.<br />For a long time Ms Cain's were the only published MF omegaverse books available on Amazon. There are quite a few other authors now who write in the same genre, I've read 3 of them and their work has all managed to be VERY different from Born to Be Bound.Louise Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860243771854577774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-51399331170369772932019-03-19T12:54:46.434-04:002019-03-19T12:54:46.434-04:00There seems to be a huge hang up on 'Addison b...There seems to be a huge hang up on 'Addison being the first to publish MF Omegaverse'.<br />That has NOTHING to do with the current court case or this blog post. What there is, is a number of similarities between the two books.<br />For a long time Ms Cain's were the only published MF omegaverse books available on Amazon. There are quite a few other authors now who write in the same genre, I've read 3 of them and their work has all managed to be VERY different from Born to Be Bound.Louise Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860243771854577774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-65093237234160813862019-03-19T12:54:29.621-04:002019-03-19T12:54:29.621-04:00There seems to be a huge hang up on 'Addison b...There seems to be a huge hang up on 'Addison being the first to publish MF Omegaverse'.<br />That has NOTHING to do with the current court case or this blog post. What there is, is a number of similarities between the two books.<br />For a long time Ms Cain's were the only published MF omegaverse books available on Amazon. There are quite a few other authors now who write in the same genre, I've read 3 of them and their work has all managed to be VERY different from Born to Be Bound.Louise Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860243771854577774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-44164167336422442392019-03-19T12:54:13.518-04:002019-03-19T12:54:13.518-04:00There seems to be a huge hang up on 'Addison b...There seems to be a huge hang up on 'Addison being the first to publish MF Omegaverse'.<br />That has NOTHING to do with the current court case or this blog post. What there is, is a number of similarities between the two books.<br />For a long time Ms Cain's were the only published MF omegaverse books available on Amazon. There are quite a few other authors now who write in the same genre, I've read 3 of them and their work has all managed to be VERY different from Born to Be Bound.<br />Louise Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860243771854577774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-5110037041876962092019-03-16T06:58:47.247-04:002019-03-16T06:58:47.247-04:00Just wanted to pop in and say Addison wasn't t...Just wanted to pop in and say Addison wasn't the first to publish Omegaverse on Amazon. I don't know if there were any before this, but it was published in 2014: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22828176-taken-by-darkness<br /><br />It's on the MF Omegaverse list: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/111863.Omegaverse_m_f_romanceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-16585137062775316532019-03-15T14:59:49.637-04:002019-03-15T14:59:49.637-04:00I want to say thank you all for all the comments! ...I want to say thank you all for all the comments! However - DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DOX ANYONE IN THEM. I've already had to remove one comment attempting to reveal Addison's real name. This is MESSED UP. There are to be NO comments revealing her OR Zoey's real name. Doxxing is a very real, very dangerous thing to do with real life consequences for people and is an utterly shitty thing to do. If you know someone's real name, that's a privilege and not something that should be shouted out to the internet at will, I don't care if you got it from them or from a court document, keep it to yourself. <br /><br />It does not matter what other relevant or good information you have in your comment, any comment that doxes someone will be DELETED. Period.<br /><br />Thank you for your cooperation. Goldeniangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929993797333679857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-48520599085838198382019-03-15T14:57:00.122-04:002019-03-15T14:57:00.122-04:00Hello! Thank you for the information! i will certa...Hello! Thank you for the information! i will certainly use it. <br /><br />Also, during my research I have discovered that the quote being attributed to Addison as saying she created MF Omegaverse is wildly out of context - it was a response when a reader specifically asked her about the Omegaverse books on Amazon, of which hers IS the first as far as I've been able to find, and which the rest of the MF Omegaverse books available through Amazon do seem to follow in tone (aka being dark). I'm going to have that and more on my next blog post, but in the meantime, be assured that the screenshot of her claim going around the internet has been taken entirely out of context. <br /><br />As someone who didn't know that omegaverse existed outside of books until last year (whereas I was reading the MM books as long ago as 2013), I was thrilled to find out about the vast universes available on websites. Addison already knew about them of course, but I'm not going to fault her for not talking about them when she was asked a question that specifically and completely had to do with omegaverse works available on Amazon. Goldeniangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929993797333679857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-1981421654010959802019-03-15T04:56:27.488-04:002019-03-15T04:56:27.488-04:00Here are a few f/m A/B/O stories from Archive of o...Here are a few f/m A/B/O stories from Archive of our Own.org written across multiple fandoms and original works posted before January 1st, 2016, the year that Born to be Broken was published. You can find these kind of works in other platforms of course (Dreamwidth, Adultfanfiction, Fanfiction.net, Tumblr, etc.) but I mostly visit AO3. Mind the tags and trigger warnings.<br /><br />1. All For One and One For All by Jaune_Chat <br />Published: 2012-07-22<br />Summary: Natasha is the only alpha on a team of omegas. Who somehow managed to all go into heat at the same time. What's a responsible alpha to do but have an orgy?<br />( https://archiveofourown.org/works/465830 )<br /><br />2. All Reason Aside, I Just Can't Deny by tristesses<br />Published: 2012-12-05 <br />Summary: Contrary to popular belief, Darcy likes being an omega! She's just a cynic about the soulmate thing, but statistically speaking, she's never going to find hers, so who cares? As for Loki, the disturbing thought that he could be inadvertently bonded with a mortal from the very planet he wants to conquer never crossed his mind, but if asked, he would claim it was impossible.<br /><br />Unfortunately for both of them, they're completely wrong.<br />( https://archiveofourown.org/works/583600 )<br /><br />3. our sweet escape. by katarama Published: 2015-12-25<br />Summary: There’s a hand on Scott’s arm, making him still. He can smell the way the scent blends with his own, familiar. As settling as it is dangerous right now, with his whole body flushed and warm. He knows the professor is talking, and he can see his mouth moving, but he can’t hear a word that’s coming out of his mouth, his head a rush of chemicals. He can hear his heart beating, can hear every movement of the alpha next to him.<br /><br />His alpha. Allison.<br />( https://archiveofourown.org/works/5531633 )<br /><br />4. My Choice by yeaka <br />Published: 2013-07-27<br />Summary: Fortunately for Draco, he gets to oversee certain Omegas’ detentions.<br />( https://archiveofourown.org/works/900900 )<br /><br />5. This is an Alpha's world by KristinStone <br />Published:2015-08-26<br />Summary: ... but it would be nothing without an Omega by their side.<br /><br />In a world where Omegas are nothing but breeding machines and sold to the highest bidding Alpha love is a mere product of biochemicals. Romantic novels enthuse over the true and pure love above biology and chemical body reactions. But when Reba gets sold to her Alpha she has to face the dark and grim reality that some Alphas still live in 1849 and see their bond mates as nothing but housewives and breeding machines … although even that she isn't allowed, among other things.<br /><br />If she will find happiness in her life or end up chosing to share the same fate as her Omega mother depends on her own willpower and strength.<br />( https://archiveofourown.org/works/4659930/chapters/10630869 )<br /><br /><br />So these are just five out of 419 works within the Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics tag specifically for the F/M category, but if you include Multi category works (F/M, M/M, F/F, etc) that number bumps up to 1579, and these are published BEFORE 2016. The overall number of F/M & Multi works in the archive for Omega-verse are 2681 and 7735 respectively. <br /><br />I say, for patrons of erotica, the commercial writers in y’all’s community are missing out on a lot of delicious Omegaverse goodness. Both Addison and Ellis should take this as an opportunity to expand their reading. Fanfiction is fun.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-25172243849235246932019-03-14T20:20:57.582-04:002019-03-14T20:20:57.582-04:00I'm definitely going to be looking into that! ...I'm definitely going to be looking into that! As for the other MF Omegaverse stories, if you could point me in the direction for researching my next blog post, I would appreciate it! I pretty much read exclusively Literotica.com and books, so otherwise my first place to look is through google, but I'd prefer to start where the readers are. <br /><br />Thank you for taking the time to read my post and comment!Goldeniangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929993797333679857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-37975694280624128122019-03-14T20:20:27.649-04:002019-03-14T20:20:27.649-04:00Hi! You are very right that sometimes revealing on...Hi! You are very right that sometimes revealing one's real name can lead to harrassment - on the other hand, sometimes one person poses as multiple people posting anonymously (as you obviously know since you made sure to indicate that you're a diff anon). So there are downsides to both things. <br /><br />I don't believe I ever made such a claim. I've also consistenly seen Addison say that she "thinks" she was the first to write MF Omegaverse or that 'as far as she knows' she was the first to write MF Omegaverse. One joke that she made where she didn't add her usual disclaimer was screenshotted and completely blown out of proportion. <br /><br />As for the other MF Omegaverse stories, if you could point me in the direction for researching my next blog post, I would appreciate it! I pretty much read exclusively Literotica.com and books, so otherwise my first place to look is through google, but I'd prefer to start where the readers are. <br /><br />Thank you for taking the time to read my post and comment!Goldeniangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929993797333679857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-28781166330235584122019-03-14T20:18:24.798-04:002019-03-14T20:18:24.798-04:00Hi! Thank you for your comments - I am going to be...Hi! Thank you for your comments - I am going to be doing a more thorough breakdown of what's going on soon. <br /><br />In the meantime, I hope you can be reassured that the lawsuit absolutely does NOT assert that others should not write in the Omegaverse and Addison has continuously said that she 'thinks' she was the first to write MF Omegaverse and that 'as far as she knows' she was the first. One joke that she made where she didn't add her usual disclaimer was screenshotted and completely blown out of proportion. <br /><br />As for the other MF Omegaverse stories, if you could point me in the direction for researching my next blog post, I would appreciate it! I pretty much read exclusively Literotica.com and books, so otherwise my first place to look is through google, but I'd prefer to start where the readers are. <br /><br />Thank you for taking the time to read my post and comment!Goldeniangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929993797333679857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-45780588136294781532019-03-14T09:10:00.494-04:002019-03-14T09:10:00.494-04:00I'm just pointing out here that Addison wasn&#...I'm just pointing out here that Addison wasn't the first author to write F/M omegaverse by a long shot - the first f/m omegaverse fanfic was published in 2012.<br /><br />Calling Addison Cain the first person to write F/M omegaverse is completely unfair to the thousands of fanfic authors who created the genre. It's more accurate to say that she was the first person to do commercial F/M Omegaverse, because she may very well be the first person to do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-50244894856538596252019-03-14T04:11:35.812-04:002019-03-14T04:11:35.812-04:00I agree with the above anon. Certainly using simil...I agree with the above anon. Certainly using similar outlines and tropes could be easily disproved in court. But in Cain's facebook, the author delved into more specific examples for comparison between their books, so maybe the case of plagiarism wouldn't be discounted entirely.<br /><br />Though if it's simply a matter of one author following too closely to the beats and storyline of another author, then Omegaverse tropes shouldn't be brought up at all. It doesn't matter if it's m/m or m/f. Addison Cain isn't the pioneer for heterosexual Omegaverse fiction. In fact, even if someone were to publish a book with the same tropes featuring intersexual or non-binary characters (which I've yet to find one in Goodreads), they still wouldn't be 'the first' to explore that idea. I can guarantee you there are hundreds of stories within those premises in the MCU fandom alone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-91034801385821376352019-03-13T18:11:45.802-04:002019-03-13T18:11:45.802-04:00*can't Because obviously, you sure didn't...*can't Because obviously, you sure didn't come up with it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10433927625772711387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-47126220863309785912019-03-13T18:10:58.599-04:002019-03-13T18:10:58.599-04:00Calling someone out to use their real name is only...Calling someone out to use their real name is only an attempt to point people in the direction of a dogpile/attempted harassment. (I am not the same anon, by the way.)<br /><br />None of you started the A/B/O trend, certainly none of you own any claim to it, and I can guarantee there are a thousand or more fanfics with those exact same plots all over AO3, geez. Grow up. You can plagiarize an idea you didn't even come up with.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10433927625772711387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-41884336475024452692019-03-13T11:22:49.981-04:002019-03-13T11:22:49.981-04:00Hi, this is a different Anon and I won't use m...Hi, this is a different Anon and I won't use my blogger ID specifically because Omegaverse is supposed to be a niche m/m fandom thing that you enjoy in secret - for good reason.<br /><br />I got here because I just found out via twitter that my favorite fandom genre since the J2 days went "mainstream" in a complaint/court document. Details of Omegaverse history and whatnot got written down in that statement and I think that was a gargantuan mistake.<br /><br />Omegaverse is a public sandbox. No one can lay claim to it. Even if you were the first to commercially publish a subgenre of it, you have no legal rights on the idea because it is not your copyright. Detailing it in the statement as proof of plagiarism only hurts your case because it's easy to disprove. This applies to both Cain and Ellis by the way, since both of them (or their publishers) filed complaints against each other.<br /><br />Second, having similar or even the exact same tropes and outlines is still not plagiarism. The court will take account the possibility of both of them having the same idea at different times. Moreover, the basic outline you gave us of the "plagiarized" content is a classic omegaverse trope. All the defendant would need to do is show proof that it exists (and it does) in other unaffiliated works that date earlier than the complainant's work.<br /><br />The only way you could prove that your work was plagiarized is if you find lines fully lifted from your work onto the other OR if you can prove that you were the absolute original founder of that genre. Otherwise you're fighting a lost case from the get-go.<br /><br />If anything, the only complaint your friend Cain can fight is the harassment claims. She can demand damages for being wrongfully accused of libel/slander depending on your laws. The DMCA abuse claims I fear will take more root because her publisher fighting for a copyright she does not truly own in the first place is legitimate DMCA abuse.<br /><br />Legalities aside, I'll admit I'm upset that this is how Omegaverse breaks into the real world - through straight(?) authors who claim to own a part of a public sandbox that was made specifically for gay content. But that's a personal sentiment. People can write and publish what they want - and that's the root of this situation, now isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-11700085393091959932019-03-13T09:09:45.520-04:002019-03-13T09:09:45.520-04:00Hi, thanks for your anonymous comment - here's...Hi, thanks for your anonymous comment - here's the thing: tropes are fine. Using the same tropes are fine. I do it. Other authors do it. We all do it. <br /><br />Copying another author's outline and using their beats... not fine. It's harder to prove yes, but I think Addison has a case here and I go through why. Having the scenes line up so perfectly, one after the other, is NOT usual. <br /><br />When I have more time, I'll do another blog post covering that, but right now I have to finish writing my own book. Hopefully I'll have time next week. Goldeniangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929993797333679857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-30949585844159086462019-03-13T09:05:27.764-04:002019-03-13T09:05:27.764-04:00LOL thank you Jacqui, it's appreciated.LOL thank you Jacqui, it's appreciated. Goldeniangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929993797333679857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-86518751055164736092019-03-13T06:05:05.330-04:002019-03-13T06:05:05.330-04:00Oh dear, google seems to have gone haywire and pub...Oh dear, google seems to have gone haywire and published my reply 3 times, oh well I stand by what I saidJacquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-11827807485623167122019-03-13T06:02:43.393-04:002019-03-13T06:02:43.393-04:00How about using your name when replying, if you we...How about using your name when replying, if you were truly writing this stuff back in 2010 you'd be happy to tell everyone who you are.<br />Yes tropes have been around for a very long time, so has plagirism. <br />When readers are the ones who bring something to a writers attention it means that the similarities are glaringly obvious. It spoils reades enjoyment of books when this happens. <br />And to call out someone who A) has published quite a few books and B) promotes works of authors she has read tells me that you are only here to be negative and your real aganda is to try and discredit Golden. <br />And just in case you think I'm here on anyone's behest I'm not. I've read everyone of Golden's books and follow her on FB. I don't know her personally Jacquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-25575847185147063682019-03-13T06:01:39.011-04:002019-03-13T06:01:39.011-04:00How about using your name when replying, if you we...How about using your name when replying, if you were truly writing this stuff back in 2010 you'd be happy to tell everyone who you are.<br />Yes tropes have been around for a very long time, so has plagirism. <br />When readers are the ones who bring something to a writers attention it means that the similarities are glaringly obvious. It spoils reades enjoyment of books when this happens. <br />And to call out someone who A) has published quite a few books and B) promotes works of authors she has read tells me that you are only here to be negative and your real aganda is to try and discredit Golden. <br />And just in case you think I'm here on anyone's behest I'm not. I've read everyone of Golden's books and follow her on FB. I don't know her personally Jacquinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6217074073557732596.post-31153881456557534542019-03-13T06:01:09.192-04:002019-03-13T06:01:09.192-04:00How about using your name when replying, if you we...How about using your name when replying, if you were truly writing this stuff back in 2010 you'd be happy to tell everyone who you are.<br />Yes tropes have been around for a very long time, so has plagirism. <br />When readers are the ones who bring something to a writers attention it means that the similarities are glaringly obvious. It spoils reades enjoyment of books when this happens. <br />And to call out someone who A) has published quite a few books and B) promotes works of authors she has read tells me that you are only here to be negative and your real aganda is to try and discredit Golden. <br />And just in case you think I'm here on anyone's behest I'm not. I've read everyone of Golden's books and follow her on FB. I don't know her personally Jacquinoreply@blogger.com